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Is the diluted rabies saliva used by the British Columbia naturopath legal in Canada?

A few days ago I wrote about the British Columbia naturopath, Dr. Anke Zimmermann, who claims to have cured a boy’s aggression and fear of monsters, something she called a “rabies state” (no really, she wrote that), with ultra dilute saliva from a rabid dog (no really, she also wrote that).

According to Dr. Zimmermann the boy was bitten by a dog and she surmised that perhaps the dog had recently been vaccinated against rabies and so the negative energy of the bite or even the killed rabies virus somehow afflicted the boy.

As I previously pointed out this is, well, impossible, however, naturopaths despite being all about nature are not actually bound by the laws of nature and so…

 

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Dr. Zimmermann claimed in her post that she used lyssinum (also called lyssin or hydrophobium, which totally sounds like the material that will threaten the universe in the next film in the DC Universe) from Helios Homeopathy in the U.K.

An astute friend on Twitter, @UKHomeopathyReg, who has a website that details some of the utter madness of homeopathy (there’s a lot to detail), pointed out that this specific “medication” may not be licensed for use in Canada.

Oh really?

 

Health products administered to patients in Canada are regulated under the Canadian Food and Drugs Act  to ensure Canadians are getting a safe product and not something with too much eye of newt that fell off the back of a broomstick in Knockturn Alley. This applies to all drugs as well as homeopathic “remedies,” which are licensed as natural health products. One can buy an unlicensed product off the Internet for personal use, however, one cannot as a doctor turn around and use that unlicensed product on a patient. If you want to administer a homeopathic product to a patient you must have an appropriate license and purchase it from an approved source or purchase it from someone who has imported an approved product correctly.

All snark aside, people have suffered serious consequences from comtaminated and counterfeit medications. Knowing exactly what you are administering is vital.

There is a drug and health product registry in Canada so you can make sure your preferred brand of sugar water or sugar pill that may or may not contain traces of rabies saliva is all approved and legal! Yeah Canada!

Lyssinum and hydrophobium turned up no results in this database, but there are two approved brands of lyssin in Canada. Just think, not one but two approved brands of super dilute rabies saliva to treat werewolfism in Canada. What a time to be alive!

Helios is, however, not one of them.

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There are several approved Helios products, but lyssin or lyssinum or Lex Luthor’s next big surprise is not one.

Helios

I reached out to Dr. Zimmermann on Facebook where she replied that she obtained the lyssin “from Helios Homeopathic Pharmacy.”

 

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Huh.

As Dr. Zimmermann wrote that “within a minute or two of giving him the remedy” the child was smiling at her it sure sounds like she dispensed the lyssin in her office from stock. If she really administered lyssin obtained from Helios Homeopathic Pharmacy in the U.K. that does not appear to be okay with Health Canada.

Hopefully Dr. Zimmerman will clarify this in her next interview.

Maybe the Mnister of Health in British Columbia can also look into the dispensing of unapproved medications?

 

 

 

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***UPDATE*** April 20, 2018

 

Health Canada has opened and investigation as they agree Helios Lyssin is not licensed for use in Canada.

Here is the link: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/health-canada-investigating-use-of-unlicensed-homeopathic-remedy-made-from-rabid-dog-saliva-1.4628761

 

 

 

Discussion

12 thoughts on “Is the diluted rabies saliva used by the British Columbia naturopath legal in Canada?

  1. So, that thing is basically wolfsbane? 😂

    Posted by neverwintersand | April 18, 2018, 10:57 pm
  2. Am I correct in understanding that “200CH” means that it was diluted by a factor of 100, and that this step was repeated 200 times? So that the final product would be diluted 1×10^400 times?

    Posted by Jon. | April 19, 2018, 11:02 am
    • Um…I did. I linked to it and have screenshots.

      Posted by Dr. Jen Gunter | April 19, 2018, 2:04 pm
      • The Raw Materials Policy and the Compounding Policy are different from what you have on your blog post. The policies explain how practitioners in Canada are allowed to import natural health products and give them to their patients within the patient-practitioner relationship.

        Posted by ian | April 19, 2018, 2:10 pm
      • But she said she bought it from Helios not that she compounded it. A 200c dilution seems to be a little more precise than average compounding. Hopefully we’ll get an answer!

        Posted by Dr. Jen Gunter | April 19, 2018, 2:21 pm
    • It’s quite clear that Zimmerman did not compound the rabies remedies. There is no way that Zimmerman could legally do so from scratch. Biosafety laws for one. This going to apply for many nosodes for particularly dangerous disease. Human ones even more so.

      Also, many raw materials are simply not legally available to naturopaths. eg they sometimes use isopathic remedies. Generally made from real medicines to “detox” side effects – most prominently in CEASE therapy. Can naturopaths legally obtain vaccines? Certainly can’t obtain great many prescription only medicines. Tight controls on radioactive materials (plutonium remedy does exit), certain highly toxic substances and of course narcotics.

      Compounding from purchased mother tinctures? unclear. These are often treated as medicines in their own right, these, eg herbal tinctures.

      In homeopathy pharmacies, low run items not keep in stock. Often a lower dilution – back potency – is kept and higher dilutions are made from this and put onto sugar pills, etc. Status of back potencies varies. In EU would be classed as medicines not raw materials.

      Compounding from scratch can require a lot of equipment. In the case of homeopathy, also very time consuming. More likely with simple herbal tinctures. And just for naturopath’s patients. Retail sale turns into manufacture, there’s need for site license, registration, inspection and so on.

      Posted by UK Homeopathy Regulation | April 19, 2018, 3:19 pm
  3. My understanding of the policy is that “compounding” can be something as simple as pouring 1 pellet into a separate vial. So one can import a bottle of 200c from Helios, pour one pellet into a separate package, label, and administer. Anyhow, we’ll see…

    Posted by ian | April 19, 2018, 2:41 pm
  4. “Dr. Anke Zimmermann, who claims to have cured a boy’s aggression and fear of monsters, something she called a “rabies state” (no really, she wrote that), with ultra dilute saliva from a rabid dog (no really, she also wrote that).”

    How the hell could anyone over the age of 11 believe this crap?

    Posted by Shay Simmons | April 19, 2018, 4:13 pm
  5. Clearly, all the kid needed was a coffee enema to expel “toxins.” Then, he could start a gluten-free diet. Finally, drinking lots of distilled water would decalcify his Pineal Gland and allow his chakras to become balanced. hahaha

    Posted by Alexander the Great | April 28, 2018, 12:20 am

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