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Does the “O Shot®” give insanely good orgasms or is it a “no shot”

A few like minded scientists and I were discussing unproven stem cell and platelet rich plasma (PRP) injections on Twitter when Dr. Runnel, the inventor of the “O Shot®”, inserted himself into the conversation to correct me and laud the benefits of his patented PRP procedure that he advertised can “improve sex and cure urinary incontinence.”

When I asked him to provide a study other than the promotional material on his website and why his address is Medical School, Birmingham when you that isn’t an accredited medical school I was blocked. 

But my interest was piqued. I’d been meaning to look at little further into the “O Shot®,” an injection into the clitoris and anterior vaginal mucosa and this is what I found

What is platelet-rich plasma?

Platelet rich plasma or PRP is “trendy” now (side note, I like my medicine safe and effective not trendy). Basically it is the liquid part of the blood (plasma) enriched with platelets (small cells that help makes the blood clot). The red blood cells and white blood cells have been removed. It has high concentrations of fibrin (a substance that makes the blood clot) and various growth factors that help with healing. When it is given in a medical procedure the blood is removed from the patient, the red blood cells and white blood cells are removed and and then the PRP is given back to the same patient.

It sounds great on paper. Nature’s healing! Except there is very little proof that it helps anything. Currently PRP has been tested for chronic non healing wounds and for sports injuries and the evidence has been less than impressive

Lots of therapies sound good on paper, but when they are put to the test they don’t work or the studies are never robust enough to say either way. Sometimes when we test things we also find unanticipated bad side effects. Just because it is an autologous (your own) blood product doesn’t mean it can’t be harmful. Could the concentrated clotting factors cause blood clots? Could it lead to unregulated tissue or blood vessel growth and cause pre cancerous cells to become cancer? Could it trigger harmful inflammatory responses? All of these are just a theoretically plausible as the proposed health benefits. Remember, many people thought anti-oxidants were great, until a study showed they are better for cancer cell growth than healthy cells. Medicine is filled with abandoned therapies that were too much of a good thing. 

If bathing injuries with plasma were nature’s miracle I think we would have evolved that way. But hey, study it and prove me wrong!

What does platelet rich plasma have to do with the vagina and sex?

Dr. Charles Runnel states that he invented the “O Shot®” and patented it. Anyone with a medical degree can of course inject PRP into vaginal tissues, but you can only call it the “O Shot®” if you have made some kind of arrangement with Dr. Runnel. 

The only study of vaginal injections listed on Dr. Runnel’s web site is in the Journal of Women’s Health Care, an open access journal from OMICS Publishing group, which has been listed as a potentially predatory journal. As the journal isn’t indexed by the national library of medicine it doesn’t meet my standards for “journals I should be reading.” Potentially predatory journals are a concern. Many reporters who write about therapies don’t check the journal out and certainly many patients don’t know the difference. Many doctors don’t either.

Regardless of the journal, it is a stretch to call this paper a study, it’s a case series of 11 women with a variety of sexual complaints ranging from dyspareunia to orgasmic disorder. The sexual dysfunction experienced by a woman with dyspareunia (never mind that there are a multitude of very different conditions that can cause dyspareunia so it really shouldn’t be a single diagnosis in a study) can not be compared with the sexual dysfunction of a woman with an arousal disorder. The study has apples and oranges and pears all lumped in together.

The results? Of the 11 women, 64% reported some kind of improvement, but honestly the statistics are of no value given the small sample size and the fact that there are four very different diagnoses lumped together. I also can’t tell if it was retrospective or prospective. Two women who had “minimal” pro procedure dysfunction reported extreme arousal for 1-2 weeks afterwards. This is the only bad effect noted in the 12-16 week follow up. The paper has a very short follow up, but Dr.Runnel’s website claims the “O Shot®” lasts at least 18 months but up to three years for some women.

Dr. Runnel listed his address on the paper as “Medical School, Birmingham, Alabama, USA.” which is not actually a medical school. Dr. Runnel is not a gynecologist, but an internal medicine physician according to the State Board of Medical Examiners in Alabama.

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Note the address and the 18 days turn around time from submission to publication

There are two citations using a vaginal application of PRP in PubMed and neither are related to orgasms or using it in healthy tissue. One is appropriately an in vitro study (looking at how PRP might impact the growth of specific cells called fibroblasts in vaginal tissue in the lab). 

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The most concerning thing for me is the lack of animal studies to give us a basic idea of how vaginal epithelium might respond to PRP. The bulk of the published studies involve wounds and tendons/muscles, not healthy vaginal tissue. This is a very important point because it is possible that PRP could increases the growth of blood vessels into vaginal tissues and we don’t know if that is good or bad. If a woman has human papilloma virus (HPV) in her vagina and gets a PRP injection could that cause the HPV to spread or make it more likely to develop into cancer? Could it cause scaring? Could it lead to unregulated growth of nerve endings and cause pain? Could it trigger autoimmune conditions of the vagina or vulva?

And of course does it work and if so for what sub set of women? Obviously, the placebo effect is huge with these kinds of therapies and we know the more things cost the greater the placebo rate. In pain studies placebo response rates can approach 60%, so a well-designed rigorous double-blinded placebo controlled cross over trial would really be needed.

No evidence it works, no evidence it is safe

There is very little scientific evidence that PRP does anything beneficial for injured tissue, never mind what it might do to normal vaginal epithelium. While it is biologically plausible that a therapy that improves vaginal blood flow or impacts cytokines could improve orgasm, there are also lots of biologically equally if not more plausible safety concerns.

A few years ago it was The “G shot,” which was collagen injected into the anterior vaginal wall. Margaret Cho wrote about her less than stellar experience with it and her experience reflects what I have seen.

Dr. Tim Caulfield summed up the Twitter discussion with a handy infographic and I love his quote, that PRP for female sexual dysfunction is a good “example of how bad science, social media, and questionable publications can be used to legitimize and market unproven therapies.”

Is the “O Shot®” effective? No data. It is safe? Who knows? It it worth studying? If animal data suggests it doesn’t cause unregulated growth of fibroblasts or nerves and we have an idea that it won’t trigger HPV then maybe.

Until then the “O Shot®” is a a big no shot for me.

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Discussion

14 thoughts on “Does the “O Shot®” give insanely good orgasms or is it a “no shot”

  1. Jen, Nice summary of yet another snake oil salesman out for a buck.

    Posted by Nick Sartor, M.D. | July 5, 2016, 2:29 pm
  2. The fact this guy immediately blocked you when you began to ask legitimate questions is all I need to know about this procedure.

    Posted by Erin | July 5, 2016, 2:57 pm
  3. Dear Dr. Gunter, love your passion for health care and the truth. Keep up the good work. Bob Crochelt MD, PhD, FACS

    Posted by bob99901 | July 5, 2016, 4:53 pm
  4. Not only is it not a real medical school, but the address listed is >250 mi from Birmingham: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Birmingham,+AL/52+South+Section+Street,+Fairhope,+AL+36532

    Posted by Mark | July 5, 2016, 6:48 pm
  5. Just looked at the website , looks like it’s had an orgasm . $1000 for what happens naturally ? Riiiiight .

    Posted by Jim | July 5, 2016, 11:40 pm
  6. This is a great article and a cautionary tale to those considering this unproven therapy or to those thinking of offering it.
    I’m still looking for evidence on “vaginal rejuvenation”. I noticed there were at least 5 vendors at SOGC but to me it looks like a marketing tool. I noticed NAMS does not endorse it’s use.

    Posted by Maxine Lingurar | July 6, 2016, 2:52 am
  7. Thank you for that informative post.
    G-shot sounds stupid to me even without the scientific analysis of the principle. Still, it helps to have objective data like this handy to confront such half-baked quacks.

    Posted by LG | July 6, 2016, 5:36 am
  8. If you’d spend 1/2 as much time actually looking at the science as you did trying to criticize me and a new idea, you’d realize that most of what you said is simply factually wrong. Instead of learning about what we are doing in a dozen or so medical schools and the other research we’ve done, you simply attack. Sad. Gives credence to the old adage that a new idea is to the mind what a foreign protein is to the body, instantly attacked…

    For example, here’s a video that will help you understand more if you take time to watch it…

    Posted by Charles Runels, MD | July 6, 2016, 6:13 am
  9. I think you mean fibrinogen, not fibrin. PRP prepared properly should not have a lot of activation of the clotting cascade and so little to no fibrin should have been formed.

    Posted by Amelia | July 6, 2016, 10:17 am
  10. Amelia is presumably correct, but Dr. Gunter is to be commended for encouraging skepticism toward unproven treatments.

    Posted by David Cheyney, DO | July 7, 2016, 8:19 am

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